Id?

GroYurOwn

New member
Anyone know what kind of clown this is?

i-mXtx7xh-L.jpg
 
Probably either young A. melanopus or A. frenatus (most likely A. melanopus). When young they have three stripes and then lose them as they mature. Some of them keep the stripes longer than others. Its amazing how the presence of stripes seems to change the body shape.
 
Those are truly strange looking fish. Freakin beautiful though.

Can you get any more pic's of these fish? Phil may be 100% correct, but the dorsal fin appears to break in the middle more like the clarkii complex. It may just be the way the fish is holding it in the pic though??????? The body shape just seems off??????? More pic's would be very helpful.
 
What were they labeled as when you bought them? Where did they come from? The big eyes makes me think they are small, is that correct?
 
its just strange, i have seen juvenile tomato and cinnamon clowns before, but never this coloring. If thats what they are I dont really want them, unless they stay this color....

They werent labelled in the store, the guy didnt know exactly what they were. For 40 bucks for the pair i figured WTH....I will keep them and see how they do. I like them for now.
 
Not to sound like a scientific snob, but one cannot call something an A. melanopus in the opening unless the term Amphiprion has already been used. Properly, it would be "Looks like Amphiprion melanopus or A. frenatus." You have to define the genus before abbreviating it. Though this being a clownfish category it is pretty obvious what was meant.

I'll get off of my soapbox now.
 
Did it also bug you that the original poster asked what kind of clown is this, rather than asking what Amphirion species is this? :) J/K

Point taken, but like you said, this is a clownfish hobbiest forum and not a collection of scientific documents. Most of the time we are lucky just to get people to start a sentence with a capital letter. :D

Besides, especially in the case of clownfish host anemones, the genus names are long and not that easy to spell, although I occasionally look them up and write them if I think the person is new and would need the entire genus/species name to do some research.
 
its just strange, i have seen juvenile tomato and cinnamon clowns before, but never this coloring. If thats what they are I dont really want them, unless they stay this color....

They werent labelled in the store, the guy didnt know exactly what they were. For 40 bucks for the pair i figured WTH....I will keep them and see how they do. I like them for now.

What's even stranger, if they are tomato clowns, they will lose the black as well only to possibly get it back when they reach breeding age.

Keeping their stripes this long is not very common. When I use to frequent the wholesalers here in LA, you would only see it a couple times a year out of the thousands of this type of clown they brought in. For what its worth it also happens in ephippium (fire) clowns. It is very common for little ones to still have a head bar that gradually fades.
 
I think what you have are a pair of Amphiprion rubrocinctus, you should look threw http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1529412, theres some clowns pictured that look like yours.
I selected some pages with pic of your clown listed below
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1529412&page=5
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1529412&page=6

Nice pull on the pics! However, all the clowns in the tomato complex look very similar as babies. ORA sometimes has CB A. rubrocinctus available, but these look to me to be wild caught. (I could be wrong) The only collector that I know of that did much shipping from Northwestern Australia (where rubocinctus live) was killed by a crocodile several years ago. This is the same reason you don't see many/any wild caught black ocellaris. So, while it is not impossible for them to be rubrocinctus, it is much more likely that they are frenatus or melanopus.
 
Nice pull on the pics! However, all the clowns in the tomato complex look very similar as babies. ORA sometimes has CB A. rubrocinctus available, but these look to me to be wild caught. (I could be wrong) The only collector that I know of that did much shipping from Northwestern Australia (where rubocinctus live) was killed by a crocodile several years ago. This is the same reason you don't see many/any wild caught black ocellaris. So, while it is not impossible for them to be rubrocinctus, it is much more likely that they are frenatus or melanopus.

Thanks,Can you please give me the link to the crocodile attack? It seems very interesting.
 
Thanks,Can you please give me the link to the crocodile attack? It seems very interesting.

His name was Russel Butel, and it's hard to find articles since it happened in 2005, but here is one I dug up. http://www.theage.com.au/news/natio...phyhunting-call/2005/09/30/1127804633386.html

I've been on a search for quite awhile to find a new transhipper or collector that collects from that area for the store, but to no avail in 5 years. He has not been replaced and afaik no one is collecting from that area now.
 
Last edited:
Back
Top